No, I’m not changing my mind about Ruby just yet, I’m just building up debate ammo actually. 🙂
Anyways…I’ve been trying to read up on Ruby, Rails, and ActiveRecord lately and came across two different technologies I’d like to ask you readers about. The first is JRuby. JRuby is a Java implementation of Ruby, in the same mold as Jython. It allows you to run Ruby code with the JVM and also gives you the ability to use any Java API you have available in the classpath. The question:
If JRuby is stable, why would you ever want to use vanilla Ruby?
Ruby has traditionally had huge threading problems, from what I’ve read, that Java has pretty much nailed down since it improved its memory model in JDK 5.
The next piece of technology I came across was ActiveHibernate. The idea of this project is to allow Hibernate to generate Ruby rather than Java objects when you interact with your database. The project looks a little raw (there’s no downloads), but if you dive down into the code, you see that the implementation is very small. ActiveHibernate uses Hibernate’s dynamic-map entity mode along with a Ruby specific tuplizer, so there’s only a handul of things to implement. JRuby actually has done most of the work for you by providing nice utility methods to convert Java objects to Ruby. I haven’t tried ActiveHibernate out at all, but what you’d be doing is solely defining hbm.xml mapping files. The Hibernate Tools project allows you to point to a DB and generate hbm.xml files (as well as Java classes and even a small website scaffolding like Rails does), so you’d have the same productivity as active record.
Hibernate has caching (2nd level and query), optimistic locking, a rich query language, and rich mapping strategies. They have also thought about migration strategies as well. So the question is:
If ActiveHibernate is viable why would you ever want to use ActiveRecord?
There are so many great technologies in Java land beyond Hibernate that you are able to leverage with languages that run on top of the JVM. If you believe dynamic un-typesafe languages are the future (i’m not one of them BTW), then don’t you think we should be leveraging all this old technology?
Dec 14, 2007 @ 05:28:31
Hi Bill,
thank you for your interest in ActiveHibernate. It is indeed still very raw, but in January I’ll have more time to bring it in a downloadable state. Personally I believe in an approach where Java and JRuby are used together on the same project, because I can imagine certain problem areas where JRuby could help increase development productivity.
Johan.