I just don’t get the uproar with NSA spying on internet traffic and websites. Most of what NSA is doing is data mining which is inherently anonymous, I can’t see how any of this has anything to do with privacy or freedom for that matter. Sure, it creates possibilities for abuse, like blackmailing somebody that doesn’t want to come out of the closet or is having an affair. But wouldn’t strict laws with strict penalties, and strict procedures prevent such abuse?
For example, police need a court order to wire tap a phone. Couldn’t we just treat the results from data mining as we would a phone? The program would provide a list of potential suspects. FBI could check the suspects vs. public records and such, and then go to a judge for a court order to open up the details of the data mining done. Furthermore, if we have strict laws that prevent the CIA from using this digital spying for blackmail or other shady dealings, other nations wouldn’t have much to bitch about.
Given that we’re in an age of social media where a lot of what we do on the Internet is public knowledge, what’s all the pew pew about? Google et. al. are already doing this anonymous data mining to provide highly targeted ads. Why is it more acceptable for Google to do this, than for the NSA to search for crazies that want to fly planes into buildings, bomb marathons or shoot up a school? For myself, so much of what I do is in the public what do I care if some data mining program is parsing and analyzing my emails? I also don’t think we’re giving up on freedoms to make ourselves safer.
We must trust in our institutions that they are either benevolent or that there are appropriate checks and balances in place to prevent abuses. If these checks and balances are missing, its time to legislate them into existence. I think there is a happy medium where we can make ourselves safer and put the adequate safeguards in place to prevent a total Orwellian society.
Aug 15, 2013 @ 01:03:43
How about the fact that companies are forced to help the NSA spy on a company’s users? Does that fact help you understand?
Aug 15, 2013 @ 13:14:35
Why is NSA any different than Google? Google is already “invading” your privacy and pretty much tracks everything you do so as to provide better targeted ads. Is NSA doing something more than forcing Google to give it access to data. Data that is anonymously data mined? I just don’t believe anonymous data mining of internet and voice data feeds is an invasion of privacy. I also don’t think we’re giving up on freedoms to make ourselves safer. What need need are strict laws on what the FBI, NSA, and CIA can do with this data mining and when they can access it. We must trust in our institutions that they are either benevolent or that there are appropriate checks and balances in place to prevent abuses.
Aug 15, 2013 @ 14:39:52
You’re being too naive! That big companies like: Google, Facebook, are collecting our information for their data mining…we all know and I can understand. But when that information is changing from hands without my consent…then that’s a legal violation of my rights.
Aug 15, 2013 @ 19:47:25
Which rights are being violated? Isn’t the data Google’s/Facebook’s property, not yours? IMO, if actual legal rights are being violated (and they are not I don’t believe), then there should be laws put in place that allow anonymous data mining by law enforcement officials that can be analyzed by a human by court order (much like a wire tap). Or figure out other checks and balances to avoid abuse.
Aug 17, 2013 @ 08:12:21
“Given that we’re in an age of social media where a lot of what we do on the Internet is public knowledge, what’s all the pew pew about?”
In this place and time, people share information freely because they believe they can do so in some amount of anonymity. In other times, and other places, it has not been the case, and deviating from any norm could be a death sentence. The ‘uproar’ is occurring because perhaps we are taking the first step back from a long trend (40 years at least?) of more permissiveness? People probably should keep their cards held closer to their chest, but the fact is many people have just been leaving them on the table for the world to see, and changing the rules is scary.