Comments on: Other dynamic language propaganda http://bill.burkecentral.com/2008/02/04/other-dynamic-language-propaganda/ tech talk radio Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:37:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Markus Jais http://bill.burkecentral.com/2008/02/04/other-dynamic-language-propaganda/#comment-1659 Markus Jais Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:13:01 +0000 http://billburke.wordpress.com/?p=89#comment-1659 Bill, that was a joke with Spring and Ruby :-) Also Spring now supports JRuby it's not very Ruby like. A statically typed language with the dynamic features of Ruby would really be welcome. With Groovy you have at least the choice to declare types or not. Bill, that was a joke with Spring and Ruby :-)
Also Spring now supports JRuby it’s not very Ruby like.

A statically typed language with the dynamic features of Ruby would really be welcome.
With Groovy you have at least the choice to declare types or not.

]]> By: billburke http://bill.burkecentral.com/2008/02/04/other-dynamic-language-propaganda/#comment-1655 billburke Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:17:32 +0000 http://billburke.wordpress.com/?p=89#comment-1655 @Markus: Now why would I want to reimplement Spring in Ruby? Spring exists because Java is horrible at configuration/initialization (and EJB 2.1 sucked, but that's another story). Hence my (and others) hoping that Java or another statically typed dynamic language comes around that offers structured syntax. @Markus: Now why would I want to reimplement Spring in Ruby? Spring exists because Java is horrible at configuration/initialization (and EJB 2.1 sucked, but that’s another story). Hence my (and others) hoping that Java or another statically typed dynamic language comes around that offers structured syntax.

]]> By: Markus Jais http://bill.burkecentral.com/2008/02/04/other-dynamic-language-propaganda/#comment-1653 Markus Jais Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:35:28 +0000 http://billburke.wordpress.com/?p=89#comment-1653 Maybe RedHat should by SpringSource :-) And than you could reimplement Spring in Ruby :-) I agree with you that one language does not make you a better programmer than another one. This in nonsense. There is much more to programming than just a language. Architecture, design patterns, database knowledge, concurrent programming knowledge and much more. This all does not really depend on the language. I also agree with you about the importance of a good IDE. Without Eclipse or Netbeans, programming would take a lot more time. Especially the refactoring is a time saver. I just had to change a Java method name that was used more than a 100 times in a project. Doing this with vi or Emacs would have been a nightmare. When using Ruby (with Netbeans) I also use the refactoring and other IDE tools a lot. Although the Ruby support is not where Java support is, it is very good. I would never want to go back to Emacs or vi for Ruby. IDEs just save so much time. Even for dynamich languages. Maybe RedHat should by SpringSource :-)
And than you could reimplement Spring in Ruby :-)

I agree with you that one language does not make you a better programmer than another one. This in nonsense. There is much more to programming than just a language. Architecture, design patterns, database knowledge, concurrent programming knowledge and much more. This all does not really depend on the language.

I also agree with you about the importance of a good IDE. Without Eclipse or Netbeans, programming would take a lot more time. Especially the refactoring is a time saver. I just had to change a Java method name that was used more than a 100 times in a project. Doing this with vi or Emacs would have been a nightmare.
When using Ruby (with Netbeans) I also use the refactoring and other IDE tools a lot. Although the Ruby support is not where Java support is, it is very good. I would never want to go back to Emacs or vi for Ruby. IDEs just save so much time. Even for dynamich languages.

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